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Re: PGCE teachers doing the CELTA and failed?
Posted By: The Critic In Response To: Re: PGCE teachers doing the CELTA and failed? (Martin McMorrow)
Date: Tuesday, 2 March 2010, at 2:05 a.m.
Well reasoned, but as you are very closely involved with CELTA and are one of its principal fans here on Dave's ESL I would not expect anything else.
However, you still fail to address the elitist "British" issue and lack of positive support for potential failing students.
Most complaints come from non-British CELTA students. I know people from the USA that took CELTA courses in Spain (some dropped out before it ended) that were victimised because (according to their British trainers) they couldn't speak properly and didn't understand grammar (British style). Also for a variety of petty issues, such as wearing expensive clothes (yes I am serious).
CCQ's are vital to any classroom as is the balance between STT/TTT. The problem arises with the reply to the CCQ. If the student teacher followed the example of the course trainer, the student teacher would reply negatively to language learner mistakes. Imagine telling a language learner "Why are you so stupid, haven't you learned anything." I cannot believe that CELTA teaches its student teachers to do this. Why do CELTA course trainers do it? Is this the way that CELTA course trainers are trained?
Why does CELTA use highly antagonistic methods of feedback (borderline emotional torture) that have reduced people to tears? Surely CELTA teaches that feedback should be given in a positive manner rather than negatively. The prominent authors you have mentioned would probably be shocked to know this as it goes completely against what they recommend.
The comment about robots refers to how CELTA graduates end up. They get barinwashed during the course. I doubt that they entered as robots, but they certainly appear to emerge as another CELTA robot at the end. I've spoken to a lot of CELTA teachers and indeed I've worked with a few. They all think that their way is the best and they are not at all flexible in their approach. I can't remember how many times I hear "I have a CELTA" spoken with such snobbery that you'd think the Red Sea would part again. They are also fairly intolerant of other methods, sometimes they berrate their students and they are not particularly creative. It appears as though they have a CELTA "play book". Anything outside this, they consider un-acceptable.
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