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Re: PGCE teachers doing the CELTA and failed?
Posted By: My Name is Joe and I AM. CANADIAN. In Response To: Re: PGCE teachers doing the CELTA and failed? (jenny)
Date: Tuesday, 23 February 2010, at 4:02 p.m.
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I'm sorry - but the CELTA is not like painting by numbers, and the reason why it's held in high regard is that it's not easy and doesn't just pass everyone. A PGSE is clearly different.
***-->First, are you referring to a PGCE (Post Graduate Certificate in Education)? Second, the reason why the CELTA is held in high regard is because of its marketing machine. That's it. People have heard of it.
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The bar for the CELTA is set very high, and clearly higher than the PGSE. ...Though only four-weeks long, the CELTA is a pass/fail course.
***-->Yeah, because that's all that the French teacher in high school had for training- four weeks and pass or fail. Oh wait! No,they needed to go to university for a year to learn how to teach the language after they were already fluent in it. Each course/ module/ unit would have been taught by people with doctorates in education in the specific discipline that they were teaching. Is the CELTA like that?
People usually spend a year at a university getting their initial teacher training certification during which they spend months doing a practicum, followed by teaching for at least a few years, and THEN getting a masters degree in education. That's how it works if you teach other languages. That's how it works for English language teachers in non-English speaking countries.
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No one fails because they can't comprehend ICQs. They fail because they can't teach to an acceptable level.
***-->They fail because they do not do everything exactly as expected- which is what painting by the numbers means.
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Maybe whinging isn't the answer. Education is a serious matter and students deserve good quality teaching.
***-->That's right, and nothing marks professionalism in education like studying for ***four weeks*** for a pass or fail grade.
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